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Doppleganger

Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: G4 to become G1 - how long before Jon goes solo.. |
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Hello all.
One thing that has struck me when listening to G4 is how the tenor, Jon, drowns the other 3 out on many sections of songs. Is something any of you have noticed? He is also the one with the highest profile.
It's almost as if he's being groomed for solo stardom. This is definately the impression I am getting. Thing is, I don't think he's as good as some of the other solo tenors already out there, like Jon Christos for example.
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Nicola

Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 208 Location: Borehamwood, Herts
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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After listening to G4 rather extensively now I must say I very much like Jon.
I'm sure you know that I agree with you regarding Jon drowning out the other 'somebodies' (someone on the forum has finally agreed with me!)
I think Jon would make a fantastic solo artist and I am waiting for it to happen. I think you underestimate him slightly. He has a huge booming voice but that isn't what makes him good solo material, it's the distinction of his voice. I can honestly say I have never heard a voice quite like it. When I first heard it I thought it was down right weird but after some Jon conditioning I learned to appreciate it. Most tenors out there sound the same no matter how good their vocal ability, Jon would stand out from the crowd because of his unique sound. Jon can only improve I am sure.
(P.S. I have listened to Jon Christos' cd... nice voice, very ordinary, I was wondering how he got a record deal - but it was only first listen, we know what I said about Amy Nuttall as soon as I got her album). _________________
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xrainy ClassicalX


Joined: Jan 05, 2006 Posts: 690 Location: Russell corner
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jon was given the option of being solo at the X factor auditions if i remember rightly, and he said how they were a 4piece not wanting to go solo.
but who knows what the future holds, Hope he dont go solo tho, cos out of G4 i prefer Mike's voice  |
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Doppleganger

Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong Nic, he has a very controlled technical voice but to me it sounds a bit brassy and nasally. He doesn't have a lot of warmth in his voice. If he went solo (which will happen at some point) he will be pretty successful as he has quite a big fan base now but he won't ever be considered in my eyes as one of the great tenors. There's something missing for me.
I haven't listened to the Jon Christos CD but I have heard him singing 'live' a few times. What I heard I really liked - he is effortless and has a warmth to his voice that the other Jon just doesn't have.
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xrainy ClassicalX


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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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i find G4 Jon nasally too, glad i'm not the only one
I like his voice in conjuction with the other 3 members of the group, but on his own it would annoy me too much.
Never heard Jon christos voice, only seen what he looks like |
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Nicola

Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 208 Location: Borehamwood, Herts
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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I don't think mentioning him optioning fo rhim to stay in a group justifies how things are now. X Factor was very different. It was all about team power. Now that Jon is living it like a star that attitude may change. I'm not saying fame will turn his head or anything, but he may decide that it doesn't suit him after a while.
I agree Christos is effortless, but I don't find him warm, I find him boring. We shall see! It wouldn't be the first time I am wrong
103 posts... yea... call it sitting in front of an essay not knowing what to write so wondering off to find something to do in the mean time until I think of something to write. It's not a very good technique though.  _________________
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Penny

Joined: Jan 14, 2006 Posts: 94
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: Re: G4 to become G1 - how long before Jon goes solo.. |
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| Doppleganger wrote: | Hello all.
One thing that has struck me when listening to G4 is how the tenor, Jon, drowns the other 3 out on many sections of songs. Is something any of you have noticed? He is also the one with the highest profile.
It's almost as if he's being groomed for solo stardom. This is definately the impression I am getting. Thing is, I don't think he's as good as some of the other solo tenors already out there, like Jon Christos for example.
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......I agree that Jon has the highest profile and was singled out from their very first audition by Simon Cowell as being "an amazing singer". It is inevitable that eventually the group will decide to go their separate ways - and pursue their chosen solo careers - I suspect they will all stay in the classical field. I see Jon as having the most success as a soloist - in fact I think he could well be the British Josh Groban given the right direction and promotion - he has an exceptional voice and is young and extremely good looking - the full package. But I hope a parting of the ways does not happen for a few years yet !!! |
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Doppleganger

Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Well I don't know about him being the next Josh Groban - I'm clearly not as a big fan of Jon as you are. Personally I'm not a big fan of the tonal qualities of his voice (or of G4 as a whole for that matter). I do agree though that he'd be pretty successful as a soloist in the classical crossover field and that it's a matter of time before this happens. |
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Molly

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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ......I agree that Jon has the highest profile and was singled out from their very first audition by Simon Cowell as being "an amazing singer". It is inevitable that eventually the group will decide to go their separate ways - and pursue their chosen solo careers - I suspect they will all stay in the classical field. I see Jon as having the most success as a soloist - in fact I think he could well be the British Josh Groban given the right direction and promotion - he has an exceptional voice and is young and extremely good looking - the full package. But I hope a parting of the ways does not happen for a few years yet !!! |
Agree with what you've said Penny. But I too hope they dont have a parting of the ways for a good few years yet. I love them as a Group - love their harmonies and I am a very big fan of Jon's voice. I think he has an unique voice - very distinctive - you know it immediately - and whilst I can appreciate that we all have different tastes and his voice may not appeal to everyone - for me his voice has huge appeal.
I especially like his high voice on some of the songs on the second album like Remember Me and Another Day but also love his voice on the lower register tracks too. He's got it all for me - voice, personality, looks, ambition, drive, determination - the whole package and I think when the group does end he will have a very big future ahead.
So many other tenors whilst having wonderful voices - very often sound the same to me - and I was looking for something different and Jon and G4 are it for me.
I dont think think Jon will leave G4 for a while though. He turned down one of the leads in the Magic Flute to stay with G4 and Mike gave up all the singing work he had arranged for himself so I think they are all pretty committed to the group for a while.
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carly

Joined: Feb 03, 2006 Posts: 13
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Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've been to a lot of G4 events and heard them sing live many times and Jons voice doesnt drown out the others as much when performing live.....the production of the album definately makes his voice stand out more
I think when they guys do go their seperate ways (which will happen but i hope wont happen for a very long time) Jon will have a successful career as a soloist, but i also think Ben will go far as a solo tenor. He has such an amazing soft tenor voice that nobody gets to hear much of, the sort of voice you can listen to for hours on end...whereas Jons voice (as much as i love it) can get a little too much for me. Hes an AMAAZING singer but sometimes the other 3 get shadowed by him. They all have sensational voices, hopefully we will get to hear more of Ben, Matt and Mike because they certainly have a lot to show us!  |
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Mikechristiefan

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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Jon wont leave
He is loving what he does plus the others do get too sing _________________
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Cheryl

Joined: Feb 19, 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Winchester
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I think a lot of people have noticed how Mike, Matt and Ben seem to have more of a 'backing' role in the group, and you are right about Jon's vocals quite often drowning out the others.
However, as inevitable as him going solo at some stage is, I don't think it will be too soon. They are doing brilliantly as a group and who knows what's to come. There's no need for him to go solo as I'm sure he'll have far more success as part of G4  _________________
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Doppleganger

Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Watched G4 on Loose Women today and it was really noticeable, at least to me, that Jon was given centre spot with Lesley Garrett. Now 'Barcelona' is definately one of those songs set up as a duet but the rest of the lads must be thinking how long they have left before Jon goes solo.
Now I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that G4 will split up within a year, with all the boys going their seperate ways, or maybe G4 minus Jon continuing on as a vocal trio. I just don't see them staying together long term. |
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Kerry

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Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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I don't agree - the boys are loving what they are doing at the moment, they enjoy performing as a 4 piece, they've said it time and again. They have immense support and welcome constructive criticism, all the time trying to improve on what they are doing.
Yes, Jon takes centre stage with Lesley on Barcelona - but it's essentially a duet so not that strange really. Each of the boys will get their chance to shine individually on the tour again this year, but it's as a group that they truly show what they can do. Some of the songs on the second album don't use their harmonies to their fullest potential but hopefully that'll be remedied on the 3rd album.
They'll be around for a long time yet  _________________
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jaydh

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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree too. Jon had amazing opportunities offered to him which he turned down to stay with the group. They all have said they love performing together and all bring their individual strengths to the sound.
Only today, they were in a radio interview being very enthusiastic about their career as a group and Jon said he hoped it would continue for a very long time
So I don't think he has any solo plans just yet... and his voice has such a range that he hasn't even begun to explore what it can do.
I think some of the negative comments come from his tendency to sing in a higer register than some of the songs are really suited for.. and it's a shame because whilst he has the most fantastic high tenor for classical pieces, it perhaps doesn't suit some of the pop covers as well as it might.
His lower tenor voice does have a warmth and depth to it which I think he is only just starting to explore... let's face it he only just turned 24.. his voice didnt' break until he was 16... give him a chance to develop and I think he will be a truly stunning talent in the years to come
J
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